GoodReads logoAh, GoodReads. I can’t deny that I love that site. It’s where both Kat and I first entered into the big world of reviewing before we started blogging. And even today we are very active there partially because we are crazy addicted and we have no lives. But seriously, there is no better site to get great book recommendations and find hidden gems. It’s a gold mine full of people who love books just as much as I do.

Of course, with every person who says they LOVE GoodReads, there is another who would find no greater happiness than watching the site burn to the ground. They’d probably even dance on the ashes like it’s no tomorrow Footloose style. At first, I couldn’t understand it, but I’ve been watching the author meltdowns, tantrums and the like for a while now and I think I have it figured out. GoodReads has this reputation, especially in Young Adult land. There are these preconceived notions about what GoodReads is or rather, what it should be. Unfortunately, all this does is detract from an awesome experience with fellow book geeks. And dammit, I’m a little tired of it all because you think you know, but you have no idea. So maybe we should sit back and talk about this. Maybe we should all join hands in a circle and search our feelings. Wait, does that sound lame? Okay, well how about I just do a (possibly) humorous run-down and debunk some myths? Yes?

1. Professionalism

Myth: GoodReads reviews should be professional and unbiased. Being the good reviewing site that it is, it’s full of professional reviews giving feedback on books that will always help other readers with purchasing a book. The reviews found there are concise and to the point, never overly harsh or snarky. It is their duty and the only way to be taken seriously.

Truth: *runs out to check mailbox* Damn, it looks like the Big Six forgot to mail out my check. Again. Look, the reality is GoodReads reviewers are not getting a paid for what they do. Hell, I wish I did get paid for reviewing books on that site. Maybe then I’d have a more plausible explanation for being on there at the strangest hours of the night. No, scratch that. I like that I work for no one. It allows me to not have to play the Be Nice rule. I don’t want to Be Nice, I want to be honest. We are all (mostly) normal people chatting about books. It’s a social networking site where readers gather together and either gush or bitch about books. Sometimes more bitching, depends on the day or alignment of the planets.

2. Yin & Yang

Myth: There are so many negative reviews on GoodReads, hardly any positive reviews.

Truth: There are positive and negative reviews to every book on GoodReads. Do some books have more negative reviews than others? Sure, but c’mon. Let’s be honest here. Not every star shines just as bright as another. Sometimes a book sucks. Hard. That’s not a reader’s fault. Blame Mufasa and the circle of life.

3.  Haters Gonna Hate

Myth: The ones that write those snarky reviews are all haters! They just love to hate and tear apart books for fun. They’re probably spawns from the Grinch and kick puppies just for laughs! Evil reviewers! I hope you step on a Lego!

Truth: Yeah, that’s right. We just love reading sucky books because we are haters. We climbin’ in your windows, snatchin’ all your books, tryna review ‘em…  (<=== In case you missed it, that’s sarcasm.) The truth is we hate wasting our time. Who wants to sit around reading bad books all the time just to spend hours pouring over a keyboard tearing it to shreds? Not me. And I would say most reviewers don’t like writing negative reviews, but someone’s gotta write ‘em. Not to mention we have lives. Outside of reviewing. I know, it surprises even me sometimes too.

4. Shit Stirrers

Myth: Those darn GoodReaders are always starting drama. They just love to stir shit up. Damn trolls.

Truth: *snort* Okay, I won’t sit here and deny that GoodReads doesn’t have a fair share of drama. It does. However, it’s not because they are actively seeking it. No one is huddled together like gremlins plotting their next big trollish prank. Now, of course, when drama does break out everyone and the Drama Llama’s gold-fish seems to flock to it faster than the Playboy bunnies to Hefner’s mattress. They just can’t help themselves.

5. The YA Mafia

Myth: The real problem with GoodReads is that there’s a group of reviewers that lead witch hunts against poor authors: The YA Mafia! *gasp*

Truth: “You’re so vain. You probably think this song is about you. Don’t you? DON’T YOU?!” Lolz. This one always makes me laugh. A YA Mafia?! Really? Lolz. Like the Godfather?

I think some give YA GoodReads reviewers a little too much credit. It surprises me to believe people actually think I would go out of my way to make someone else miserable. Do they envision us running after ogres shouting, “Grab your torch and pitchforks!” Hahaha! That would be pretty funny. But, real talk. No one is out to “get” anyone. They only time reviewers band together is if one if their own has been attacked by an author. In those cases, while there has been overreactions on both sides of the fence, there is no mafia. I mean, really. What’s the worst we can do? Shelve a book on our “Do Not Read” lists? Unfollow someone on Twitter?

Yes, that just screams world domination.

But… Just for kicks, if I were to lead a YA Mafia, I’d do that shit in style. We’d all go around dressing in badass, black suits, wearing shades even when it’s dark out. Then we’d carry these shiny, high-tech guns with tons of buttons specializing in blowing stuff up. You’d never see us coming because we’d be that good. Omg, I’m a freakin’ genius! Oh, wait…

Steph Sinclair is just your average bibliophile trying to make it through her never-ending To-Be-Read list. She is a co-blogger here at Cuddlebuggery and equal opportunity snarker and fangirl. Find her on GoodReads.

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78 comments
Holly
Holly

I had no idea people hated Goodreads so much, it's one of my favourite sites to visit and I can't imagine handling my book habit without it :S

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Holly: I know! I'd be lost with out my daily GoodReads fix! Ha!

KM
KM

The YA Mafia thing cracks me up. I've heard it references in a number of different contexts, referring to different groups of people. I still haven't figured out who these people are actually supposed to be. Is there a list somewhere? Because if there is, I want to be on it! ;) I <3 Goodreads. I think it's my favorite social networking site for books, just because it's less about people's social lives (I'm looking at you, Twitter) and more about books...which is sorta what book blogging and all this jazz is about.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@KM: I love the "Motherland" too. Lol. Nothing but books. That's just how I like it. :)

Trish
Trish

I actually started book reviewing through a blog first. Which probably wasn't the greatest idea in the world. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE blogging, but well... that sh*t is hard. And people are really nice. Reaaaaly nice. Sometimes I feel like reviewers are so nice and don't give bad reviews for fear of upsetting an author. If there is more than a handful of one star reviews that reviewer is seen as mean and not followed. The drama thing on blogs spread like wild fire through Twitter. It's pretty vicious. Guys, DON'T PET THE DRAMA LLAMA! Just don't.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Trish: The blogging world does see very different from GoodReads. People tend to be nicer on blogs with reviewing whereas GoodReads reviews can be very blunt and honest. It's why I love the site. Because when I'm looking to buy a book I'm not concerned with if the reviewer help the author's hand through the review. I want the skinny on if it's worthmy time and money!

Sarah (saz101)
Sarah (saz101)

THERE'S A YA MAFIA? WHY WASN'T I TOLD? MAY I JOIN?!! Ugh... you know, with the nagative reviews? If anything, I'd say there's more positive reviews, surely. With people gushing about books and loving them and... I need to stop leaving rambling comments while on cold medication... so... uh... *waves*

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Sarah (saz101): I think you're already a member. ;) And I agree! There are a bunch of positive reviews and ratings on GoodReads. Some people just seem to forget about them when a negative review pops up.

a. knight @ paranormal indulgence
a. knight @ paranormal indulgence

Okay, this is just too funny! I'm really digging those gifs. But mostly I had no idea peeps were thinking this about Goodreads. Should've figured it.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@a. knight @ paranormal indulgence: Unfortunately, yes! I keep telling people we don't bite... much! Lol.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Jan: Hi Jan, The thing is anyone is welcome to post their opinion whether it is in agreement or not. The problem comes into play when a person repeatedly comes to the site to insult us. That is what Jason does and it crosses the line. Furthermore, if you have a problem with the post or what .jpegs or .gifs I chose to use you can directly reply to me or email me. The above post is written with sarcasm. I suppose I was not aware that reaching a certain age, marital status and the decision to reproduce automatically voids the ability to do so. You may, however, choose to disagree as that is your right. But please do not presume to assume my maturity level.

Jason
Jason

Myths? *snort* Right. Can anyone say echo chamber? Congratulations, Stephanie! You and your friends have once again proven that you haven't matured past the age of high school. But please, continue. It is highly entertaining to watch you embarrass yourselves online.

Kat Kennedy
Kat Kennedy

If you want to talk to us, you can always email us. But perhaps leaving abusive comments on our blog isn't the best way to prove that we are the childish ones.

Jason
Jason

@Kat Kennedy: Prove that you're childish ones? I don't have to. You've done that quite nicely on your own. What's wrong, Kat? Don't like dissenting opinions posted on your blog?

Jan
Jan

@Kat Kennedy: I think Jason is right. Stephanie's post shows a great deal of immaturity. Posting a gif flipping off people who disagree with you is something I would have done at age 13 and Stephanie is how old? So basically what you're saying is that he is not welcome to post his opinion stating that he thinks that kind of behavior is extremely immature for a grown woman who is married with children. I'm sorry but I have to agree with him. It is extremely immature.

J.R.
J.R.

@Jason: Who peed in your Wheaties there Jason? Seems to me that the only person in this conversation who's behaving like a child is you. Kat and Stephanie...LOVE this post! I want an MIB "flashy thing" to deal with all the Internet turdbirds out there.

Kat Kennedy
Kat Kennedy

@Jason: Here is the point we're at: you can either choose to stay and civilly point out things you disagree with for the sake of discussion like an adult. Or you can continue to be inflammatory and rude. If you choose wrongly then your comments will be routinely deleted without response. We have never minded people disagreeing with us, but we do ak that they refrain from being hostile and abusive on our own blog.

Rachel Hartman
Rachel Hartman

Late to the party, here (because I've been writing! Put down the stick, Archer!). But I just want to say: I am an author and I love GoodReads. And frankly, I love it FOR the heartfelt, personal, passionate, "unprofessional" reviews. As a writer, I want to know that real people read my book and had real, human reactions to it. I don't need someone dispassionately analysing the imagery or themes. I know what imagery and themes it contains; I wrote the damn thing. I want to know how my book makes people FEEL. I have never seen so many people passionate about books in one place. It's probably not surprising that there's drama, with all those FEELINGS swirling around (and we authors are generally highly sensitive, emotional types as well). But I really believe it's all to the good. How else are books, as a medium, going to survive if we aren't passionate about them?

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Rachel Hartman: This is Exactky why I love it too. I love seeing everyone's opinions, even on the books I happened to love. It's a really great site when you just look at it of what it truly is: Readers sharing a passion for the written word.

Lauren's Loquacious Literature
Lauren's Loquacious Literature

This seriously proves to me that people will try to make dramas about anything. I didn't even know it was possible to hate GoodReads. It's just a website. It's a pretty awesome one too. This is just craziness.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Lauren's Loquacious Literature: I know. Sometimes it still shocks me the way people react from the consumer reviews there.

The Librarian @ Madaug's attempt at book reviewing
The Librarian @ Madaug's attempt at book reviewing

I think I've been living under a rock. I'm on Goodreads almost everyday and yet I've never experienced these 'drama's". It's very sad. But I loved this post ,especially the Grinch thingy and the funny phrases you used :D. "spawns from the Grinch". Not to mention the sarcasm

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@The Librarian @ Madaug's attempt at book reviewing: Thanks! Be happy you haven't experienced the drama. I wish I were right under that rock with you!

Keru Faye
Keru Faye

Goodreads is great. I don't have many friends on there right now, but I like that I'm able to keep a list of all the things I'm going to read. I like the YA community that maybe one day I'll become a part of (right now, I'm just a stalker).

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Keru Faye: I stalked GoodReads for a good while before I really became a part of the community and when I did everyone was very friendly. The ability to shelve my books however I like them is an invaluable tool. I read way more that I did now because of GoodReads.

annerooo
annerooo

LMAO! Brilliant post. YOU ARE A GENIUS, Steph! <3

Andrea K Host
Andrea K Host

I love being told to "Be Nice". Because among the various meanings of 'nice' is 'precise'. So someone is inviting me to tell them exactly what I think! 'Be professional' is also an odd one, because among reviews, professional reviews contain some of the nastiest, most disdainful reviews I've ever seen. And they usually don't bother to entertain me with funny gifs either. I like to use Goodreads - as a reader and as a writer. People have had a wide range of opinions of my books, but on a personal level (rather than an opinion of books level) no-one's ever attacked me. I suspect authors who approach Goodreads as readers and use it as readers, get a lot more out of it.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Andrea K Host: I like that thinking! Nice=precise. Every time I hear of being professional, thinking of Simon C. From American Idol. People really look up to and respect his opinion because he is an intense critic and usually right. He's not known for being nice at all and is pretty rude.

Alexia561
Alexia561

Great post! I always seem to miss the drama somehow, so feel left out. Can I subscribe to the YA Mafia newsletter so I'm in the know from now on? :p Love GR and always check reviews there, as I trust it a little more than Amazon. And Fangs is right that all positive reviews would be boring, not to mention lose any impact. We need the negative reviews so we can appreciate the awesome ones!

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Alexia561: The drama can get a little crazy at times from both parties. But the YA mafia accepts firstborn children or IOUs for initiation payments. Lol.

kimba88
kimba88

Too funny...thanks and i love the mafia baby!!!

Laura Hunsaker
Laura Hunsaker

This post rocks so hard! I've only had some minor kerfuffles with authors on GR, but the odd thing is-both were YA books. O.o Also, I thought the YA Mafia referred to the authors, not the reviewers?

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Laura Hunsaker: It depends on which side of the fence you're on. I've seen both reviewers and authors refer to the opposing sides as such.

Mary @ Book Swarm
Mary @ Book Swarm

I love GoodReads. I mean, there's bound to be some drama because there are actual people doing the reviews and people reading them but, yanno, there's some really good stuff on it. I love creating a "To Read" shelf, love checking out what other people thought about a book I loved or hated, and sharing my own reviews. And the whole YA mafia thing is so ridiculous. *rolls eyes* Whether it's the authors or reviewers, ganging up on someone is so not cool. In my world, it's called bullying.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Mary @ Book Swarm: I agree, it's completely ridiculous. Let's all just go read, I say!

Kate C.
Kate C.

What a great post! It's about time someone set the record straight. Although, I don't tend to think of reviewers, but rather AUTHORS as the YA mafia. Seriously, I was surprised when you said that. I think it's just because many (but not all) of the authors that try to take down or marginalize reviewers have large fan bases they can call on. Not to mention they can also call on their friend authors, agents and editors, as well. Reviewers have each other and that's about it.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Kate C.: Oh, them too! I think the other mafia (reviewers) stems from the "do not read" mass shelving on GoodReads along with the screen caps and status updates.

VAL.
VAL.

I thought that the term "YA mafia" was coined to refer to authors, not reviewers, because of their tendency to outwardly support each other, bash negative reviews, remind reviewers to "Be Nice" if they want a future in publishing, etc.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@VAL.: It was, but recently some author have dubbed some as a mafia or Borg due to the infamous "do not read" shelves.

VAL.
VAL.

@Stephanie Sinclair: Oh, wow. That's pretty bad. :|

ExperimentBL626
ExperimentBL626

Those people may dislike GoodReads all they want (as it is entirely their right to do so) but they got to admit GoodReads is top place, beside Amazon, where readers go to read reviews. Nobody ever talks about LibraryThing or Shelfari or the publishers-built aNobii. Perhaps it is because GoodReads afford readers the highest level of freedom to express ourselves.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@ExperimentBL626: Excellent point. I haven't even heard of aNobii. Shelfari is owned by Amazon, so I really don't expect much from them. I do have an active Shelfari account since that is where I started before I discovered GR, but I love GR so much more.

Kate C.
Kate C.

@ExperimentBL626: This is so true! There are lots of other book socializing sites, but goodreads is clearly the cream of the crop. Which is why its so popular.

Cyna
Cyna

Hmmm...good post, except...this is exactly what the hate-mongering hater hate hate leader of the YA mafia *would* say! You almost had me! /sarcasm Anyway, I thought the mythical YA Mafia referred to the secret cabal of YA writers who wouldn't let you get published if you were mean to their book? Are there TWO now? Someone needs a new title.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Cyna: Hahaha! I am your leader! Lol. I think there are two! Recently, some authors have been labeling us as a "mafia", "Borg" or "mob" leading witch hunts after authors. This mostly had to do with how some shelve their books.

Cyna
Cyna

@Stephanie Sinclair: Pffft, mafia is so last season. Personally, I think the YA Borg has a much better ring to it, and also, cyborgs.

Cyna
Cyna

@Stephanie Sinclair: I'm more excited about the awesome headpieces.

Stephanie Sinclair
Stephanie Sinclair

@Cyna: Ohhhh, I like the sound of that. Think of the cool T-shirts we could get.

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